Comments on: katherine https://vegan.katherineerickson.com/2010/03/04/katherine-56/ Everything four vegans eat for a year. Sun, 10 Jun 2012 19:34:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: emily https://vegan.katherineerickson.com/2010/03/04/katherine-56/comment-page-1/#comment-287 emily Fri, 05 Mar 2010 23:21:43 +0000 http://vegan.katherineerickson.com/?p=1945#comment-287 i guess the kosher certification at least means it's not a natural flavor that's made out of meat AND milk! i guess the kosher certification at least means it’s not a natural flavor that’s made out of meat AND milk!

]]> By: katherine https://vegan.katherineerickson.com/2010/03/04/katherine-56/comment-page-1/#comment-286 katherine Fri, 05 Mar 2010 22:52:49 +0000 http://vegan.katherineerickson.com/?p=1945#comment-286 I will track down the New Yorker article. I think I remember enjoying a chapter about flavorists in Fast Food Nation. I do wonder if there is an actual tie between the "natural flavor" and the Kosher Dairy symbol of a product that has both, or if that is just the default way of dealing with the uncertainty of "natural flavor" sources. I will track down the New Yorker article. I think I remember enjoying a chapter about flavorists in Fast Food Nation.

I do wonder if there is an actual tie between the “natural flavor” and the Kosher Dairy symbol of a product that has both, or if that is just the default way of dealing with the uncertainty of “natural flavor” sources.

]]> By: emily https://vegan.katherineerickson.com/2010/03/04/katherine-56/comment-page-1/#comment-285 emily Fri, 05 Mar 2010 22:33:08 +0000 http://vegan.katherineerickson.com/?p=1945#comment-285 "The term natural flavor or natural flavoring means the essential oil, oleoresin, essence or extractive, protein hydrolysate, distillate, or any product of roasting, heating or enzymolysis, which contains the flavoring constituents derived from a spice, fruit or fruit juice, vegetable or vegetable juice, edible yeast, herb, bark, bud, root, leaf or similar plant material, meat, seafood, poultry, eggs, dairy products, or fermentation products thereof, whose significant function in food is flavoring rather than nutritional." -U.S. Code of Federal Regulations so a natural flavor can be made of pretty much anything, including meat. based on some stuff i just read it sounds like companies don't even have to know what their natural flavors are made out of, because it's usually sourced out to flavor companies with "flavorists" who create the flavors (there was actually an extremely interesting new yorker article about flavorists a couple months ago that i recommend reading for knowledge and entertainment!). seems like artificial flavors are more likely to be purely chemical (and therefore vegan). it would be an interesting challenge to cut out anything with natural flavors of unspecified origin- that would cut out a lot of foods and even stuff like most brands of tea. “The term natural flavor or natural flavoring means the essential oil, oleoresin, essence or extractive, protein hydrolysate, distillate, or any product of roasting, heating or enzymolysis, which contains the flavoring constituents derived from a spice, fruit or fruit juice, vegetable or vegetable juice, edible yeast, herb, bark, bud, root, leaf or similar plant material, meat, seafood, poultry, eggs, dairy products, or fermentation products thereof, whose significant function in food is flavoring rather than nutritional.” -U.S. Code of Federal Regulations

so a natural flavor can be made of pretty much anything, including meat. based on some stuff i just read it sounds like companies don’t even have to know what their natural flavors are made out of, because it’s usually sourced out to flavor companies with “flavorists” who create the flavors (there was actually an extremely interesting new yorker article about flavorists a couple months ago that i recommend reading for knowledge and entertainment!). seems like artificial flavors are more likely to be purely chemical (and therefore vegan). it would be an interesting challenge to cut out anything with natural flavors of unspecified origin- that would cut out a lot of foods and even stuff like most brands of tea.

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